"We know what the Founding Fathers believed. They
believed in universal rights. And they believed in basic principles of human dignity. Above
all, they did not think the government had the prerogative of behaving
as it pleased. It doesn’t have the prerogative to torture." Juan
Cole
“The torture was far more brutal than we thought, and the
CIA lied about that. It didn't work, and they lied about that too. It produced
so much bad intel that it most likely impaired our national security,
and of course they lied about that as well. They lied to Congress, they
lied to the president, and they lied to the media. Despite this, they
are still defending their actions.” Mother
Jones quoted at Telesur
“The United Nations Convention Against Torture and Cruel,
Inhuman and Degrading Treatment (Torture Convention), ratified by the United States
in 1994, appears to require the United States to investigate possible
torture committed within its jurisdiction,” Conyers’s
report.
Note: Gina Haspel participated in a torture program that involved beating an (innocent) pregnant woman's stomach,
anally raping a man with meals he tried to refuse, and freezing a shackled prisoner until he died.
She personally wrote the order to destroy 92 tapes of CIA torture.
Trump congratulated her on her confirmation as CIA director.
--
So, if you believe the government should:
✅ break the law;
✅ commit immoral acts;
✅ waste time & resources on something with no benefit;
✅ help the country's enemies;
Then torture has it all.
Andrew Stroehlein
18 May 2018
Torture works. OK, folks? You know, I have these
guys "Torture doesn't work!” believe me, it works. And
waterboarding is your minor form. Some people say it's not actually
torture. Let's assume it is. But they asked me the question: What do
you think of waterboarding? Absolutely fine. But we should go much
stronger than waterboarding. That's the way I feel. They're chopping
off heads. Believe me, we should go much stronger, because our
country's in trouble. We're in danger. We have people that want to do
really bad things! Donald Trump
"In the United States, the Senate report on torture in the context of
counter-terrorism operations is courageous and commendable, but
profoundly disturbing. For a country that believes so strongly in human
rights to have swiftly abandoned their fundamentals at a time of crisis
is as astonishing as it is deplorable...
Under international law, the report’s recommendations must be followed
through with real accountability. There is no prescription for torture,
and torture cannot be amnestied. It should also lead to examination of
the institutional and political causes that led the US to violate the
absolute prohibition on torture, and measures to ensure this can never
recur." U.N.
High Commissioner for Human Rights.(3/5/2015)
Amendment VIII of the U.S. Constitution
says Excessive bail shall not be required, not excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
So why does the Supreme Court allow torture to be buried in secrecy by the FISA Court ?
How can the Constitutional originalists justify this insult to humanitarian values ?
You might think that we progressed since the Inquisition, but Republicans
nominated and elected a Presidential candidate who publicly advocated even more
severe torture. Evangelical Christians rallied around him. What
does that say about Republicans or their gun-loving, religious zealots ?
Naomi Klein wrote "Despite the mystique that surrounds it, and the
understandable impulse to treat it as aberrant behaviour beyond politics,
torture is not particularly complicated or mysterious. A tool of the
crudest kind of coercion, it crops up with great predictability when
ever a local despot or a foreign occupier lacks the consent needed to
rule...Just as ecologists define ecosystems by the presence of certain
"indicator species" of plants and birds, torture is an indicator species
a regime that is engaged in a deeply anti-democratic project, even if
that regime happens to have come to power through elections."
"Two of the things that governments tend to cover-up or lie about the
most are assassinations and torture, both of which are widely looked
upon as exceedingly immoral and unlawful, even uncivilized. Since the
end of the Second World War the United States has attempted to
assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders and has led the world in
torture; not only the torture performed directly by Americans upon
foreigners, but providing torture equipment, torture manuals, lists of
people to be tortured, and in-person guidance and encouragement by
American instructors, particularly in Latin America....Rendition is
simply outsourcing torture."
William Blum
The Bush-Cheney White House brought torture back in secret. "It pushed
for and approved the program; it was complicit in obtaining the deeply
flawed legal opinions that redefined the ban on torture to meaningless
nothings. White House officials forgot that both George Washington and
Abraham Lincoln barred torture in perilous times when Americans were
hard pressed in their fight to create the nation or to save it. They
also forgot that after World War II the United States led the way in
drafting the Geneva Conventions, which prohibit torture and other forms
of inhumane treatment. They locked out voices of experience from the
State Department and the military who would have warned of harm to
America's reputation and risks to American captives. They failed to
listen to FBI experts on interrogation who could have explained we were
getting important intelligence through interrogation techniques other
than torture. And they forgot, or nobody told them, that after World War
II we had prosecuted Japanese officials as war criminals for using on
American soldiers the same torture techniques the White House authorized
and the CIA implemented after 9/11."
Fritz Schwartz
"The Nuremberg Trial of the German war criminals was tacitly based on
the recognition of the principle: criminal actions cannot be excused if
committed on government orders; conscience supersedes the authority of
the law of the state." Einstein on Politics, Rowe and Schulmann.
The U.S. signed the Convention Against Torture (1988) which explicitly
bars considerations of national security or fears of terrorism as an
excuse for perpetuating torture or refusing to prosecute the torturers.
Nor is taking orders from one's commanders considered a valid defense.
Aside from relying on very bad legal opinion, Bush administration
regarded Guantanamo as a place where the niceties of American law would
not apply. The United Nations demanded that Guantanamo Bay be closed. At
the same time further acts of torture
at Abu Ghraib prison were revealed by Australian television, pictures
that show even worse abuses and degradation than those broadcast in
America several years ago.
The U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights.(3/5/2015)
reported "In the United States, the Senate report on torture in the
context of counter-terrorism operations is courageous and commendable,
but profoundly disturbing. For a country that believes so strongly in
human rights to have swiftly abandoned their fundamentals at a time of
crisis is as astonishing as it is deplorable... Under international law,
the reports recommendations must be followed through with real
accountability. There is no prescription for torture, and torture cannot
be amnestied. It should also lead to examination of the institutional
and political causes that led the US to violate the absolute prohibition
on torture, and measures to ensure this can never recur."
President Obama's refusal to bring former officials to account confirms
that high-level politicians are above the law. Media has not made it an
issue.
"The United States is now relearning an ancient lesson, dating back to
the Roman Empire. Brutalizing an enemy only serves to brutalize the army
ordered to do it. Torture corrodes the mind of the torturer." James Risen:
Torture is a powerful motivating recruiting message for terrorists.
Republicans are wrong to increase the military in response. They will
not make you safer. Their oligarchs profit from endless war.
Picking off high-profile, extremist Muslims with drone strikes
guarantees their rage, but they are also aware that we are arming Israel
at the rate of 4 Billion dollars per year. There are 1.5 billion
Muslims, so they do outnumber us.
What we are fighting is a war against a Medieval religion, a
continuation of the Crusades fought for the last centuries.
Armies, Drones, or Bombs do not change minds. Verifiable facts, secular
education, and clear-eyed media does.
Note: Gina Haspel participated in a torture program that involved beating an (innocent) pregnant woman's stomach,
anally raping a man with meals he tried to refuse, and freezing a shackled prisoner until he died.
She personally wrote the order to destroy 92 tapes of CIA torture.
Trump congratulated her on her confirmation as CIA director.
--
So, if you believe the government should:
* break the law;
* commit immoral acts;
* waste time & resources on something with no benefit;
* help the country's enemies;
Then torture has it all.
Andrew Stroehlein
5:54 AM - 18 May 2018
"The Nuremberg Trial of the German war criminals was
tacitly based on the recognition of the principle: criminal actions cannot
be excused if committed on government orders; conscience supersedes
the authority of the law of the state." Einstein on Politics, Rowe
and Schulmann.
“There is a pressing need to bring the United States
into the legal community of nations, where it must be held accountable for its
actions. Let us be clear: the scale of US crimes in the war on terror
comes nowhere near the genocidal war-making of the Nazis. But ever
since World War II, the American empire has put its heavy boots on
every continent. Even in imperial decline—after disastrous wars in
Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, and facing long-term challenges from
China and Russia—it remains the world’s preeminent military and
economic power. If the most powerful country in the world—a country
that still, decades after the end of the Soviet Union, calls itself
“the leader of the free world”—can violate international laws of war
and human rights with complete impunity, then why should any other
nation be constrained? For the sake of the victims of the war on
terror, for the sake of our national soul, but even more for the future
of humanity, we need a full accounting and real accountability for
American war criminals. We need an American Nuremberg.” American Nuremberg
In the case of torture, the Bush-Cheney White
House was clearly involved. It pushed for and approved the program; it was complicit in
obtaining the deeply flawed legal opinions that redefined the ban on
torture to meaningless nothings. White House officials forgot that both
George Washington and Abraham Lincoln barred torture in perilous times
when Americans were hard pressed in their fight to create the nation or
to save it. They also forgot that after World War II the United States
led the way in drafting the Geneva Conventions, which prohibit torture
and other forms of inhumane treatment. They locked out voices of
experience from the State Department and the military who would have
warned of harm to America’s reputation and risks to American captives.
They failed to listen to FBI experts on interrogation who could have
explained we were getting important intelligence through interrogation
techniques other than torture. And they forgot, or nobody told them,
that after World War II we had prosecuted Japanese officials as war
criminals for using on American soldiers the same torture techniques
the White House authorized and the CIA implemented after 9/11. Fritz Schwartz
'We've
come to this ignoble moment.' 'We have
become like Serbia.' 12 Jul 2008 'I never thought I would say this,
but I think it might, in fact, be time for the United States to be
held internationally to a tribunal. I never thought in my lifetime
I would say that, that we have become like Serbia, where an
international tribunal has to come to force us to apply the
rule of law... So we've come to this ignoble moment, where we could
be forced into a tribunal and forced to face the rule of law that
we've refused to apply to ourselves.' --Constitutional Law expert
Jonathan Turley, on MSNBC's Friday 'Countdown,' discussing
accountability behind US war crimes at
Guantanamo.
"Two of the things that governments tend to
cover-up or lie about the most are assassinations and torture, both of which are
widely looked upon as exceedingly immoral and unlawful, even uncivilized.
Since the end of the Second World War the United States has attempted
to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders and has led the world in
torture; not only the torture performed directly by Americans upon
foreigners, but providing torture equipment, torture manuals, lists of
people to be tortured, and in-person guidance and encouragement by
American instructors, particularly in Latin America." William
Blum
The United States is now relearning an ancient
lesson, dating back to the Roman Empire. Brutalizing an enemy only serves to brutalize the army
ordered to do it. Torture corrodes the mind of the torturer.
James Risen: Pay
Any Price: Greed, Power, and Endless War
Continuing the Bush-Cheney
path, Trump, declared his intention to be a war criminal, promising more
extreme torture.
Rebecca Gordon in her book 'Mainstreaming Torture' recounts,
torture in reality has generated desired falsehoods to support wars,
created lots of enemies rather than eliminating them, encouraged and
directly trained more torturers, promoted cowardice rather than
courage, degraded our ability to think of others as fully human,
perverted our ideas of justice, and trained us all to pretend not to
know something is going on while silently supporting its continued
practice. None of that can help us much in any other ethical
pursuit. (from David
Swanson's review)
In April 2008,...an ABC news
report detailing that torture techniques were not just approved but
'choreographed' by 'the most senior Bush Administration officials at
a series of meetings in the White House situation room. Reportedly
presiding at those meetings were, among others, Defense Secretary
Donald Rumsfeld, Attorney General John Ashcroft, CIA Director George
Tenet and Secretary of State Colin Powell.
According to ABC, those officials
agreed that detainees could be 'slapped, pushed, deprived of sleep or
subjected to simulated drowning, called waterboarding.' They also
approved interrogations that combined different methods, pushing the
limits of international law and even the justice Departments own
legal approval” The torture policies being discussed were so
extreme that even Ashcroft...observed 'History will not judge this
kindly'.
“In April 2009, Scott Horton of
Harper's reported that in Spain, 'prosecutors have decided to press
forward with a criminal investigation targeting former U.S. Attorney
General Alberto Gonzales and five top associates [John Yoo, Jay
Bybee, David Addington, Doug Feith, and William Haynes] over their
role in the torture of five Spanish citizens held at Guantanamo.'
Moreover, Spanish authorities 'advised the Americans that they would
suspend their investigation if at any point the United States were to
undertake an investigation of its own into these matters.”
Under international treaty
that the US has signed: the US is legally required to investigate allegations of
torture and to bring the torturers to justice. Not doing so is itself
a criminal act. The Third Geneva Convention, which was enacted in the
wake of severe detainee abuse during World War II, obliges each
participating country to “ search for persons alleged to have
committed, or to have ordered to be committed, such grave breaches,
and...bring such persons, regardless of their nationality, before its
own courts.
The Convention Against Torture
explicitly bars considerations of national security or fears of
terrorism from being offered as an excuse for perpetuating torture or
refusing to prosecute the torturers. Nor is taking orders from one's
commanders considered a valid defense.